Podcast with Charlie Kirk on the Need for Christian Courage to Fight Wokeism
Charlie Kirk (1993-2025) RIP
Charlie Kirk was a great Christian man. I was privileged to interview him and to be interviewed by him. Here’s an interview I did with him in the summer of 2024. -JN-Our prayers are with his family and the movement he has begun.
Topic: Saving the West from Wokeism.
Publius Communications writes, “The United States of America has long been the lone beacon of freedom and sensibility in a chaotic world. Now, she is under threat from a lethal ideology that seeks to humiliate and erase anyone who does not bow at its altar. The threat in question? Wokeism.” Charlie Kirk, founding of Turning Point USA, has written a new book about wokeism and what a threat it is to our country. Charlie’s book is called, Right Wing Revolution: How to Beat the Woke and Save the West. Publius writes this about Charlie’s organization: Charlie Kirk is the “Founder and President of Turning Point USA, a national student movement dedicated to identifying, organizing, and empowering young people to promote the principles of free markets and limited government. With a presence on over 3,000 high school and college campuses nationwide, over 650,000 lifetime student members, and 450 full- and part-time staff across the country, Turning Point USA is the largest and fastest-growing conservative youth activist organization in the country.” Charlie Kirk joins Jerry Newcombe on Vocal Point to discuss saving America and the West from Wokeism. www.tpusa.com
Originally Published July 1, 2024 (but was recorded shortly before the Trump-Biden debate, June 27, 2024).
The audio is available here.
My wife and I got to attend a small meeting Charlie Kirk once did in Miami. It was purposefully a small gathering, because of safety concerns. October 9, 2023.

***Jerry Newcombe was once a guest of Charlie Kirk’s program
The topic was revival at Asbury and revival in general.
America’s Great Awakenings with Dr. Jerry Newcombe
Podcasts > The Charlie Kirk Show
Charlie is America’s hardest working grassroots activist who has your inside scoop on the biggest news of the day and what’s really going on behind the headlines. The founder of Turning Point USA and one of social media’s most engaged personalities, Charlie is on the front lines of America’s culture war, mobilizing hundreds of thousands of students on over 3,500 college and high school campuses across the country, bringing you your daily dose of clarity in a sea of chaos all from his signature no-holds-barred, unapologetically conservative, freedom-loving point of view.
You can also watch Charlie Kirk on Salem News Channel
Wednesday, March 1, 2023
Before each great political transformation in American life, there was first a great religious transformation. Historian and Providence Forum president Jerry Newcombe joins Charlie to explain how the moral revolution of the First Great Awakening paved the way for the American Revolution and Constitution, and how the spiritual revolt against slavery then drove abolition in the 1800s. Dr. Newcombe then debunks the myths about George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, and what they really believed about God, the church, and government.
Note: this is the video by Jerry Newcombe that Charlie Kirk was asking about and playing a portion thereof: “The Road to Independence,” one of the 7-part films on America’s Christian roots produced by Jerry Newcombe for Providence Forum.


Also, here is my article on Charlie’s martyrdom.
Here is an additional article I wrote following Charlie’s murder.
On October 14, 2025, what would have been Charlie Kirk’s birthday, I got to speak in Ft. Lauderdale at an event to honor Charlie’s memory. Jack Gillies, co-leader of the old Ft. Lauderdale Tea Party movement, organized this. Also speaking were Lauren Cooley and a gentleman named Emmanuel—both of whom used to work for Charlie Kirk. Local artist Robert Kolhanen had painted a beautiful picture of Charlie Kirk.

